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Let's analyze book 1 from the gods perspective... anger on the divine perspective
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Emily Bennett and May Hogan Book 1 analysis: Gods :)
Apollo got mad because Agamemnon denied Chrysies's request to take his daughter back. Then chrysies prayed to Apollo. So apollo took out his rage on the Achaeans. He shot arrows at their dogs and mules, and then om their people. Thetis was the mother of Achilles. When achilles's prize was taken away (briseis) She was called on to talk to Zeus to get her back. Thetis was successful with the request. When Achilles threatened Agamemnon, Athena showed up to hold Achilles back from killing him. She tells him to drop the fight because in time something magnificent will happen to him.
Apollo came down and started masacuring the peoples of Agamemnon because he decline the request that chrysies his priest to release his daughter. Achellis got mad at Agememnon and was going to kill him but Athena came down and stettled Achellis. Because of this Agamemnon was vety mad and took achellis prize away. Achellis was mad so he prayed to his mom Thetis to help him. he asked her to talk to Zeus for him and request that he sabatages the Acheans.
annoying mortals who can't do anything right and always ask for our help even when they don't do what we asks. Apollo- Agamemnon wouldn't return my priest's daughter, so I'll make his people suffer. Thesis- Agamemnon took my son's prize, I'll go ask Zeus to help the Trojans like my son asked. Hera/Athena- got to stop the hot head from killing the stupid king.
sstsgbiuChysies attempts to get his daughter back from the king but in return the kings yells at him telling him to leave. He prays to Apollo to tell him of the kings deeds and a result of it is the constant rain of arrows. Zeus is aproached by Thetis to give her son honour. He though proclaims that there isn't much he can do yet he will do what he can. He tells thetis to leave before Hara sees her and Zues gets sculed by her. Vow she does see Thetis. She exclaims that he always goes behind her back laying out laws and doing things without consulting her.
Apollo:Foolish achaeans, that King Agamemnon does nothing right. Not accepting the ransom from Chrysies was stupid. Then the King has to go and take Achilles' prize after returning his to Chrysies. Blah!
Gods: mortals are the cause of all our troubles. achilles who is already an angry man gets even angrier over the taking of his prize, even though he will recieve an even better prize from us the gods. -Maria GonzaleZ and Alison Robinson
We are writing from the perspective of Zeus. Zeus has ultimate power over everyone. He determined whether or not Achilles will get a shorter life. Apollo who is Zeus's son made Agamemnon and achilles feud.
We are also writing from the perspective of Thetis. Thetis is the messenger of Zeus. When Achilles [which is her son] asked her to go to zeus so he can grant him a shorter life. Thetis had to go to Zeus to ask if he would grant it no matter what. He ends up granting it and she is angry with Zeus because now his son will die early.
From the gods perspective things that might seem petty to us could seem significant to the gods. For example,when Agamemnon was blaming Calchas for the god making it rain arrows for nine days and killing off the soilders.It eventually became a name calling battle. To mortals this might seem like a simple coral but to the gods it might be a big deal.
Gods are rather petty, very angry people. They get distraught over nearly everything. For instance, Apollo got angry when his priest said he didn't get his daughter back. Gods over-react a lot- Apollo Shootafar killed many people because his priest cried. Although they get very angry about things that are going on in the human world, they also get extremely mad about things going on in the heavens. For instance, Hera is usually quite angry at Zeus because he goes around behind her back. When Thetis comes to him to beg for her son's honor, Hera finds out and accuses him of going behind her back again. -Caitlyn McGlynn and Maddie Hoffman
The story of Book 1 through the gods' perspectives is that Archilles & Agamemnon went to a town and took two girls, one being a daughter of a preist. The preiest of Apollo, and brought ransom money for Agamemnon in hopes of his daughter's return. Agamemnon denied his request and took his money anyways, along with insulting the priest and threatening him to never come back. The preist prays to Apollo to let the people suffer. Apollo was enraged by Agamemnon's actions and answered teh priest's pryaer and shot arrows down upon the people for 9 days until Agamemnon called for a conference to speak with the gods. Calchas spoke and told Agamemnon what needed to be done, the girl needed to be returned. Achilles agreeed and so Agamemnon and Achilles went back anf forth in a feud whether or not Agamemnon should return his "prize" and whether it was fair or not. Achilles was so destressed by this that he was about to draw his sword when Athena stopped him and convinced him t just let it go. He did and he told Agamemnon what curse would fall upon him when he (Achilles) would die. Once back to their homes Agamemnon sent for Achille's girl (prize) to be taken from him. Achilles wept and prayed to his mother, Thetis to talk to Zeus. But Zeus couldn't help Thetis becuase if Hera found out he would be scolded and nagged at. Which did occur when Hera saw Thetis speaking with Zeus.
With the humans though they're story is just an argument amongst themselves. They just hope and pray to their gods or whatever connections they have to get what they want.
Laura Johnson Apollo is furious that his priest has been disrespected. Therefore he goes and starts killing the people of Danaan. Eventually he stops, but many die before that comes to pass. Also there is the time when Hera is angy with Zeus for agreeing to Thetis's request. She feels that he doesn't include her in his decissions. To me it seems that Hera thinks that Zeus is weak to do what every people ask of him.
A gods porpective for book1 would be Apollo is angry with Agamemnon he then makes himm pay with the burning of his animals and the death of his men. Apollo only reacted to the situation of Agememnon and Chrysies because Chrysies prayed to Apollo. So to react to save Chrysies daughter from Agememnon Apollo took some thing that truly mattered to Agememnon as an eye for an eye. To me this shows that gods really did not care that much about human affairs. It also shows that the gods only reacted if the humans prayed. Also showing that the gods were sort of fairs in some ways. Atheana involved herself in some human affairsonly after Queen Hera prayed that she would help Achillies in his anger. So that he would not do something hasteful and destructive. She promised him that a chance for a sort of apology for the worlds the King Agememnon. Showing that the gods would persued people to not comitte certain actions. In all it is my belief that the gods only interfered them self in human affairs if they were prayed to or it affected them in a certain way. -Justice Mason
A gods prospective for book1 would be Apollo is angry with Agamemnon he then makes him pay with the burning of his animals and the death of his men. Apollo only reacted to the situation of Agamemnon and Chrysies because Chrysies prayed to Apollo. So to react to save Chrysies daughter from Agamemnon Apollo took some thing that truly mattered to Agamemnon as an eye for an eye. To me this shows that gods really did not care that much about human affairs. It also shows that the gods only reacted if the humans prayed. Also showing that the gods were sort of fairs in some ways. Athena involved herself in some human affairs only after Queen Hera prayed that she would help Achilles in his anger. So that he would not do something hasteful and destructive. She promised him that a chance for a sort of apology for the worlds the King Agamemnon. Showing that the gods would peruse people to not commit certain actions. In all it is my belief that the gods only interfered them self in human affairs if they were prayed to or it affected them in a certain way. -Justice Mason Sorry correct one
I think from a god's perspective, Chrysies getting what he prayed for was kind of fair and not fair at the same time. Apollo was angry because chrysies made good offerings to him in the past. I don't think the gods cared that they were killing a bunch of people just for one man's offerings and his daughter. It seems biased. The goddess Athena seems like a pacifistic angel because she says she was sent from heaven and loving. Achilles obeyed Athena when she told him to put away his sword.
In the Apollo's perspective he got mad because Agamemnon refused Chysies's request or action to recieve his daughter back. So then Apollo got so angry that he let his anger out on the Achaeans.
He then shot arrows at the Achaeans dogs and mules and then on their men and the people. For nine days the gods arrows fell apon the camp. The mother of Achilles was Thetis. Just then, when Achilles's briseis prize was taken away from her and she had to talk to Zues to get her back. Thetis' scandelous request was accepted.
Well, Agamemnon had offended Apollo, who was the son of Leto and Zeus. So, he sent a plague onto the camp and everyone died. The priest asked the king to free his daughter and give her back to him, and to respect Apollo, but the King did not. He told the priest to go away, or bad things would happen to him. Later in the book, Apollo caused a feud between the king and Achilles about Achilles' prize, Briseis. The king wanted her for himself, but Achilles would not give her to him and called him greedy. After the feud had finally ended, King Agamemnon sent a few of his servants to Achilles' hut, and they took Briseis away from him against his will. He cried and wept, and prayed to his divine mother to help him and ask Zeus to make his fate a bit better. she accepted his prayer, and went to Zeus, begging for help. He reluctantly agreed. -Matt Hinkel
the gods are a very angery group. The gods could get set off from pretty much anything. From how people treat their favored ones or from you forgetting the great deed the granted you. Like in the Iliad when agamemnon was rud ethe priest and didnt give back his daughter, Apollo released his fury because he really favored the preist and his prayers. In the Iliad the gods it seems like take sides and when ever someone messes with their person they get mad and kill or cause natural disaters. Sometimes the gods have a nicer side like when athena showed up to hold achilles back from killing agamemnon. Athena held him back because soomethign magnificent will happen to him.
The daughter of Chrysies' (a priest of Apollo) was stolen from him and given to King Agamemnon as a "prize". Chrysies asked for his daughter back in exchange for a ransom. Chrysies prayed to Apollo and Apollo fired his arrows down upon Agamemnon's army, dogs and mules. Athena came down to prevent Achilles from killing Agamemnon and told Achilles that soon something great would happen that will make up for what Agamemnon said. Hera was upset with Zeus for not discussing Thetis request with her before he made his decision. Zeus got mad at Hera for being so nosey and he threatens to beat her if she continues.
!Donna Davidson! I think that the gods have a harder time than the humans because they have to pick who they help and who they don’t and sometimes its because someone else is helping another group …but they have to make a choice between helping people and betraying another person or not help that person and act like it never happened.
In book one i would say the gods were in a "worship me" relationship with the mortals. The gods wanted recognition as well as respect, whether created by fear or something else. Towards the beginning we see that the priest had RECOGNIZED the god Apollo and he later WORSHIPED him. This priest had it all figured out, if he doesn't anger the gods, he is more likely to get what he wants. And that is what Apollo did, if i were Apollo i could sympathize with the priest, because he had done nothing to anger him, but the Acheans on the other hand had. More in the middle of book one, we can see how the many gods looked down from Olympus. Zeus at the time would have wanted to wade out the war between the Trojans and Acheneans, but influence from the mortals changed the forecast. Hera and Zeus are sympathetic to the humans. From what i have read the winner of this war is going to be the one who is favored more by the gods, or the one who the gods can relate. The gods will not associate with the ones who are greedy, Hera did not call a meeting because she wanted to talk about the war, but only because the Achenean camps were plagued and she felt for them. To the gods the current situation is just a quarrel between humans that they know they will have to get involved in sooner or later. Whether they want to or not. (Zeus granting and listing to Theti's plead for her son Archilles)
Apollo attacked the Achaeans for 9 days because Chrysies prayed to him. Chrysies prays to Apollo because his daughter, who was Agamemnon's 'prize' in battle, was not allowed to be free even after a large amount of money offered from Chrysies to Agamemnon.I think Apollo must of thought it was a stupid thing to fight over. Gods always seem to think that human fights are petty. Thetis, Achilles mother, went to go pray to Zeus after Achilles wept to her about how Agamemnon took Briseis, his battle 'prize' away from him. Thetis, being his mother, probably pitied him for his loss.
Book 1 was about how Chryses got mad at Agamemnon because he wouldn't let his daughter go. Chryses prayed to Apollo and Then Apollo shot arrows down on his people. Achilles told King Agamemnon that he should give Chryes' Daughter to Apollo.
achilles Asked his mom(Thetis ) to ask her to ask Zeus to grant he eternal life.
Agamemnon Denied Apollo by not giving Chrysies back his daughter. So he came and shot arrows from his silver bow and killed lots of the Achaeans and their animls. Then all the kings held a meeting to decide what to do. Agamemnon and Achilles were going at it during the entire meeting. When Acilles was almpst about to attack Agamemnon Athena came own and held him back. Then Achilles prays to his mom Thetis to try and get Briseis back. She goes to Zeus and tries to persuade him to help. Hera doesn' t want Zeus to help Tetis , but he tells her off.
This whole thing started when Agamemnon stole Apollos priestest Chryseis. Chryse offerd the king gold to give her back but he wouldnt do it. Chryse prayed to Apollo. Then Apollo began shooting arrows at the Achaens, first there dogs and mules, then humans. He did this for 9 days straight. Eventually Agmemnon gives the god his priestess back so the arrows stop. The king is mad that he had to give up his prize(Chryseis)so he takes Briseis, who was Achilles prize. Achilles asks Thetis to help him so she prays to Zeus for help.Zeus says that he will help. Hera is angry because he is always doing things without telling her.They have a big argument wich is eventuallty settled by Hepphaistos. Jake Green
King Agamemnon took Chrysies daughter and when Chrysies brought treasure for ransom to get her back, Agamemnon was very rude to Chrysies and told him to go away and that the daughter would stay with him. So then Chrysies prays to Apollo that the Achaeans will pay for how King Agamemnon acted towards Chrysies. So Apollo shoots all of the mules and dogs and men and this goes on for nine days. On the tenth day Achilles put a stop to it. Calchays says that the Achaeans should send the daughter back. Achilles agreed with what Calchays was saying. This started a long argument back and forth between Achilles and Agamemnon. At one point Achilles got so mad that he was about to hurt Agamemnon with his sword. Then Queen Hera sent down Athena from heaven. Athena stopped Achilles from injuring Agamemnon but they started fighting again. Agamemnon took Briseis from Achilles and so he cried and called to his mother for help. His mother, Thetis, went to Zeus for help but Zeus didn’t want Hera to see her. But, in the end, Hera did see Thetis and she got very upset at Zeus for not consulting with her before he made a decision.
Apollo got angry that Agamemnon denied the request to return his daughter back to chrysies. So Apollo came down and killed many lives. Agamemnon wants a prize to fight, so he goes and takes Achilles wife Briseis.
Achilles mother requested to zeus to give him the respect he deserves for everything agamemnon did to him, so zeus accepts behind Heras back and she gets upset with zues for never telling her his decisions.
In the beginning they were arguing over a ransom including Chrysie and I believe that Agamemnon decided not to give back the daughter and Apollo took his wrath out on the Achaens. Agamemnon had Briseis tooken away from Achilles after their little argument in the beginning of the chapter and Achilles decided to have his mother call upon Zeus to get his prize back.
Apollo pretty much came down and started smiting everyone because Agamemnon didint let Chrysies get her daughter back, so Chrysies pretty much prayed to apollo, then thats when apollo did his work and started shooting down his arrows. Then the king took achillies prize, so he gets mad, so when he was about to kill him athena came down and stopped him.
I believe that Apollo's anger was caused by the fact that Agamemnon not only turned down Chryses's ransom for the return of Chrysies, but he did so very disrespectfully. Chryses prayed to the god for revenge by having him shoot down the Achaen people in large numbers. The god came down from Olympus and fulfilled the priest's request. After Thetis (Achilles's mom) goes to Zeus to ask him to be on Achilles's side, and he accepts, Hera is ticked off at him because apparently he does a lot of things behind her back. Zeus the proceeds to tell her to mind her own business, and if he put his hands on her she'd shut up. Hera is afraid and silences herself.
From the gods' Perspective:(Book 1) Apollo was the first god mentioned in this book and it can be seen that he likes his priest, Chrysies, to teach King Agamemnon a lesson. Chrysies first went to King Agamemnon with a rich treasure to ransom his daughter, but he was harshly kicked out. Afterwards he seeked help form Apollo, and that's the foundation of this whole dilemna. After the court of the king realizes what's on, they try to find a solution. Calchas, the diviner of dreams, is then summoned and tells why Apollo is mad and what should be done about the situation. Stuborn and selfish Agamemnon doesn't like the idea of giving back the priest's daughter without getting a prize back. This leads to Archilles, who is furious with the King because he demands a prize, and won't cooperate with him on getting a bigger one once they defeat Troy. Agamemnon is so determined, he says he'll take something from Archilles, Aides, or Oddyseus. Afterwards the goddess,Hera, realizes the anger in Archilles and sends Athena to calm him. Athena then tells him not to fight because thee's somthing bright in his future. Archilles calms down, but future disputes soon occur. After one of them, Agamemnon takes Archilles' prize, Briseis, and desperate Archilles gets help form his mom, Thetis. She asks Zeus to help her son regain honor, but this favor causes trouble with Hera. Overall god's point of view: These humans don't know how to handle problems, so we have to help, sometimes putting our social status in danger.
The gods actually have as many issues if not more than the mortals. They are easily angered and violet as us. When Zues tried to help Achilles, his wife got mad becuase she didn't want him helping anyone unless she knows. In fact, she doesn't want him helping anyone at all. The only thing that is wierd about that is how Zeus is supposively the god of all gods and his wife is kind of taking charge of his responsibilities. I think she bosses him around too much. Also, she contridicks herself when she doesn't want Zues to help anyone or involve himself in mortal's issues, when she sent a messenger to Achilles to make sure he didn't kill Ammegmon (im not sure how you pronounce or spell his name).
Its also kind of wierd how sometimes the gods and the mortals seem to work together really well, but other times they are almost afraid of each other. Apollo's preist was very brave asking Apollo to help him, but Achilles who was part-god, had to get his mother to ask Zues to help him becuase his wife was taken away. Another thing I really don't get about that is why Achilles didn't try to fight back when they came and took Briseis, if he is invincible. It is also kind of funny how the gods seem to quarrell as men do, but they have power over everything that happens. Personally, if I lived in ancient Greece, I would be somewhat frightened if the divine was just as, if not more corrupted than mankind. What makes them so great then? Thier special abilities? Doesn't that make it seem more like a dicatorship? I don't know about you, but I think that the gods weren't really all that special. -Savannah Smith
Apollo was angry with Agamemnon for denying Chrises's request for his daughter, Chrysies back. Chryses prays to Apollo and Apollo hears him. Apollo gets angry and decides to send a plague over the Achaeans. After a heated argument between Achilles and Agamemnon it is decided that Chrysies will be returned and 100 sacred bulls will be sacrificed to Apollo to appease him. Athena doesn't really play that big of a part yet. She is basically the peacemaker between Agamemnon and Achilles. She tells Achilles not to fight Agamemnon because later he will be rewarded 3 times over for Agamemnon's fury, and Agamemnon will pay for it. Thetis, Achilles's mother, hears Achilles's cries when he is upset about Agamemnon taking his prize, Briseis. She goes to Achilles and Achilles asks her to go to Zeus and ask him for help for the Trojans against the Achaeans, reminding Zeus of when Thetis helped him. Zeus agrees reluctantly. Zeus is very important in this story. He is the most powerful god of Mount Olympus. At one time, Thetis helped him, so Zeus helped Thetis by granting her request to help the Trojans agaist the Achaeans. He knows that Hera will be mad, but he does it anyway. Then. he fights with Hera. Hera is Zeus's wife. She is very suspicious of him. He made the decision to help Thetis, and therefore Achilles, without consulting her. She is very upset that he never talks to her and he is upset that she is so suspicious of him. So he threatens her saying that she should just go along with it because he is the most powerful god, and if she doesn't something bad could happen to her. She is scared, but her son, Haphaestus (spelling?) tells her to make good with Zeus, for all the reasons he threatens her with. She agrees and at the end of Book 1, Zeus and Hera are sleeping in the same bed. This leads me to think that they resolved their issues.
Apollo is angry, because king agamemnon was rude and harsh to chrysies when he asked for his daughter back and offered to pay a ransom.Then chrysies became angry and prayed to apollo who then became angry at how the king treated his priest. so Apollo shot arrows at the achaeans' dogs and mules, then started shooting at them. the king threatened to take away achilles' prize if his was taken. achilles was outraged and tempted to draw his sword, but athena showed up and told him to calm down and spare the king, because great things would soon happen to achilles. The mother of achilles(thetis) tried to help his son whose prize was robbed from him by the king. so she asked zeus to not let the achaeans win the war until his prize was returned and he was honored. Hera who saw thetis begging zeus to help her son was outraged at zeus. when she confronted him however he told her that she should just keep her mouth shut.
From the gods perspective things that might seem petty to us could seem significant to the gods. For example,when Agamemnon was blaming Calchas for the god making it rain arrows for nine days and killing off the soilders.It eventually became a name calling battle. To mortals this might seem like a simple coral but to the gods it might be a big deal.
Like you'd think that theywere inferior to these types of issues but they actually have more problems then the mortals. To the gods Agmenon is just a really mean powerful ruler but he also seems that way to mortals. He took the ransom from the preiest and still wouldn't return his prize ( the girl). And then when the priest won the prize he decided that he too deserved and wanted a prize so he took the prize that the priest had just won. I also think that it's interesting how they show how powerful prayer is and how important it is to the gods. For example they said that after the horrible treatment from Agmemnon, Chrysies prayed to Apollo. Then for nine days it rained arrows on the animals then the men in the army, and many people were dying.
It seems like the Gods are just like real people, they have real lives just like humans. They marry, they socialize, they have children, and have human problems. Zeus has a clutchy, untrustful wife, and Posiedon had a daughter. There seems to be a city of Gods. These Gods seem to live at a place called Olympos.
The one thing that really sets them apart from humans is their power. If a human has a request, they pray to the Gods to grant it. Like when Achilles wanted the Achaeans to lose to the Trojans, he asked Thetis to ask the God Zeus to grant him his request, and he did. When Agamemnon refuses to let Chrysies' daughter go, he prays to Apollo to attack the Achaeans. Apollo did, and the Acheans set Chrysies' daughter free. Zac Abid
The gods are all like superheroes. They are human, so they experience anger and hold grudges, but, being immortal, they can live long enough to see consequences. This first book of the iliad alone had such a complicated web of revenge deceit and favoritism, you can't say the gods weren't human, at least in part. Joel V.D. 3rd I tried to post before and lost 2 paragraphs, so if my first posting shows up, take that on for my grade
book one starts out with a priest of Apollo visiting the King of Greece, Agemennon, and Achilles, his greatest warrior, with a ransom, trying to buy back his daughter. When he asks the king to give him back his daughter, the king refuses, and the Priest, Chrysies, prays to Apollo to help him . Apollo hears his Priest's prayer, and starts shooting arrows at the the Acheans under Agemennon. Another Priest tells Agemennon how to stop Appllo, but it requires the king to give up the Priest of Apollo's daughter, the king agrees, on the condition that he gets Achilles woman he earned from the war, Achilles, outraged, decides he wants to kill the king, but Zeus' daughter, Athena, stops him. The King sends Achilles to go make a sacrifice to Apollo, and Achilles leaves, but vows that the King will regret it. After Making the sacrifice, Achilles asks his mother, who has Zeus' favor, to ask Zeus to help the Trojans to defeat King Agemennon so that the greedy king can be brought to shame. Zeus agrees to help the Trojans, but doesn't tell his wife Hera. Hera gets angry, but is calmed by Hephastus, the Craftsman God
It seems like the gods just want to get their own type of happiness by acting through Achilles and anyone they can find. They always are in need of something, a sacrifice, an offering, etc, and they lead those in need of prayer or help from the gods' on, so they need more and more from the gods'. Then, the people feel the need to sacrifice more and more to the gods'.
Gods Perspective on anger In book 1 there was a lot of anger and feud going around between mere mortals and the gods. You can say there was a lot of drama that was occurring in the book but to the gods and to the mortals it’s not drama at all. In the gods perspective anger is just a mere punishment among mortals for their wrong doings. Anger in the book is as it is said to be believed by many meaning that even though the mortals were punished by the gods the mortals still angered them to cause those punishments. So pretty much in a god’s perspective to be angered you have to really offend them and because of your offense you will be punished. To go along to what I’m saying here is look at the fact of Apollo who pretty much destroyed King Agamemnon’s army. Do to the fact that King Agamemnon refused an old man’s ransom and refused rudely he and his army was punished by Apollo who was angered at this fact. Apollo had laid upon the army with arrows which had almost wiped out the entire army. So what you can get out of this is in a god’s perspective to be angered is just really to punish for ones wrong doings. Mark Marciniak
From the god's point of veiw. Apollo is angry because King agamemnon seems as if he doesn't care about everyone only the ones who have his back. Like when Achilles was threatining to leave King agamemnon didn't care as long as he had Zues on his side. Agamemnon also didn't accept Cyrisies' daughter and wanted nothing to do with either one. Apollo tries to give Chryses his daughter back which is Cyrises' for a ransom but Agamemnon refuses the offer and keeps her. Apollo sent a plague upon the Greek camp causing many deaths opf many soldiers. The gods seem to be more involved with the human folly then the human characters themselves.Zues promises to help the Trojans.
Achilles and Agamemnon clash in an arguement about the well being of the Archean forces. Agamemnon know feels beiong in his position he should get the highest prize (Briseis). Achilles would rather defend his claim to Briseis. Achilles always wants to fight and tried tno put the Archean army together but the goddess Athena prevents him from getting in the way with Apollo's plan. Apollo was kind of responsible for all that conflict.
"An angry man there is my story." Apollo was mad at king Agamemnon because he was being mean to this older man hows daughter was taken away from in return of tresures and didn't have his daughter so was up set and wanted revenge. That is why Apollo shoot his arrows of fire as revenge for him. The old man finally got his daughter back eventually.
Achillies also had a problem with the king, because the king basically stole his prize that he rightfully earned and recieved from the rest of the army. Because his prize was stolen he decided to also ask his mother to ask zues to help the trojans loose and get his revenge. But when the mother went to zues he said he would do his best but that his wife would not be happy so he promised he would do something to benifit him though.
COMMENTING TO MITCH AND JONATHON: Well, before I even started reading I noticed that it wasn't two paragraphs. You did the analysis and it seemed like you read the text, but you didn't really go in depth. You kinde of left a lot to be desired.
COMMENTING TO HANNAH SHIH: Again, before I even started reading, I saw that it was no where near paragraphs...and it wasn't organized into paragraphs either. It was more of a list. Then, you did something creative and actually wrote as one of the gods. It was humorous and I like your use of language.
COMMENTING TO KARA FAASEN: You actually followed directions and wrote two paragraphs. I liked how you wrote in a more general way including all the gods mentioned into two groups: angry and helpful. I should have done that, mine was way too long.
The Gods are doing favors for everyone! Zeus is helping Achillies, and Hera is angry! The king god can't control his wife!
Then there's Appollo, He's killing Achilles soldiers, and the whole thing is a mess. Isn't that ridiculous? Zeus is chief god and he's fighting his wife and the sun god. Zarah
Mallory, there were a few significant holes in you're analysis, such as, you didn't say why the priest prayed to Apollo, and you missed the part where Achilles prays to his mother
Hannah shih, I didn't understand your analysis, did you switch viewpoints? It didn't seem to be in any chronological order
the way you incorperated almost all the gods in that order, i was sure when reading your blog that you knew wat you were talking about. Although you missed a couple of details like how the prespective of the gods was well interwined with the humans action. you answers paragraphs are very well presented
Comment to Megan Crawford
i like how you explain the way you feel the gods felt. you went well into the problems that the gods had to interfere. your writings are well done, and it was hard not to see that you didn't know what you were talking about
commenting on reuben musonda: your answer was really long. although you did get the point across. It was very thorough and long.
commenting on Emily bennet/ May Hogan:
Your answer was pretty short. You didn't really state all of the gods point of view. You didn't mention what Hera said to Zeus, but you did get some things across.
Megan- I like how you use complete answers. You explain who the characters are. I didn't like how you said that Apollo sent down a plague because it wasnt really a plague, just an angry god shooting arrows.
This is to Garrett: I have to agree with you. I think that the gods really only looked at it from their perspective and not the other gods point of view. They didnt care if they killed alot of people just as long as they completed the task they were asked to complpete.
Ok now it was cool how youo sumerised the whole book but that wasnt what you exactly had to do. sumeerising the whole book was good and all especially since the whole book was about angered so good job but next time jsut remember to clearly read the directions and youll be good, you wont have to do extra work.
to miss kelly i like your answers thety are well said. the story line of how you wrote is what caught my eye. one thing of advice that i would say is to include more of the gods perception of whats going on and how much they affect the situation. BIANCA DANIELS
I really liked your answer. The way you tied in each god's anger with the others was well done. It kept me interested.
Commenting on Maria and Alison:
I liked how you both expressed not only Apollo's anger, but his feelings in general. I thought that the gods' anger was very similar, I think that they have the same 'foolish humans' thing going on. Really nice job.
I have to agree with most of it but you should have showed more on The Achilles and Agamemnon arguement. As well as the ransom order for the priest daughter. But it was very understandable and you gave good details. mentioning Apollo and Athena actions made it make sense.
To Maria Gonzales I think what she meant by from a gods perspective is that what you think the gods felt at the time of book one not. The though of you being a god is a good motive and could come out as a good answer. You show great details but I think that if you had used the correct format then you would have had outstanding prospective.
To Andrea and Hannah I love how you used accurate details with in your answers. I also like how you used raw emotion when explaining how the gods felt and how the gods reacted to the human’s affairs. What I didn’t like was the fact that towards middle of your explanation your went into some of the mortal affairs such as Achilles and Agamemnon.
Chrysies went to see the Acheans to bring a rich treasure to ransom Chrysies daughter. Agamemnon treated him bad because he was not pleased by him. Because of Agamemnon's reaction to Chrysies Apollo shoots arrows at the Acheans and their dogs. He sent a plague. Calchas stood up to tell everyone what they had to do after Achilles promised that he would have his back afterwards because he fceared Agamemnon would have a grudge. Calchas said that they had to give back the girl. When Calchas speaks Agamemnon gets really angry and took it out on Achilles he said he wouldn't give up his prize unless Achilles gave him his. Achilles offered him 3 or 4 fold for the girl. Agamemnon said for Achilles to give him Briseis (Achilles prize) or he would take her himself. Achilles hesistated to pull out his sword but right when he did the Goddess Athena stopped him. She was sent by the Goddess Hera who was once loving and kind. Achilles fortold that Agamemnon's pride would be his death. Agamemnon took Briseis because he lost his prize. Achilles asked Thetis to make him immortal. Zeus said that he would try and do what she requested but for her to go because he didn't want Hera finding out. When Hera found out she was mad because he is always fulfilling requests without her included. But she eventually agrees with it since Zeus kind of threatened her.
commenting justice you paragraphs about the gods are very detailed. I like the way you worded it also and the comments on how apollo helped. I think it was real cool how you also talked about how athena was involved.
commenting emily guy I like that you were detailed but it doesnt exactly say if brises was achilles wife or not. Not to be judgmental but achilles mother didnt ask zeus for respect for achilles, she asked that zeus support the trojan cause. It seems you have a general understanding but your answers kind of got a bit mixed up. kara faasen
to mitch the way you incorporate the gods is good. you have alot of info on the gods did. to make you analysis better you should have written more to get the best expalnation of how they affected the common people. BIANCA DANIELS
you totally had the correct stuff. I liked how you also gave an example from the book that actually shows that you read it. One question though, i think you should of said what the gods would of done if they saw some one else angered and what they would of done. that would of put both perspectives on the table and made it alittle bit better. but over all it was very good. Abigail M
Holy cow your answer was long! Sometimes when you get a really long answer like that it gets boring. Yours had the correct info and it didn't get boring. Good job.
Commenting on Mitch
You had good info. Although your spelling was questionable. it's sabotages not sabatages. It was really good info though, and it was easy to read.
You left out a few parts in your explanation, but you explained what you have well. It was easy to understand. You included most of the important parts, anyway. The parts you left out were not as relevant to the story. Nice job overall. -Matt Hinkel
Agamemnon stole a girl from an old guy who was a priest of apollo. The old man tries to pay ransom but agamemnon does not release her. The man prays to Apollo and apollo sends a plague to agamemnons men.
After this event achillies called all the men to an assembly and asked the men what they did wrong. Someone came forward and it was decided that the priests daughter must be returned so agamemnon gives her up and achillies is forced to give his girl up. Achillies tells his mom and she tells zeus and he doesnt really do anything.
Gods’ point of view Apollo Apollo more than likely was very mad at the mortals. He was mad because King Agamemnon took his priests daughter, and wouldn’t give her back, even after the priest brought him a ransom for his daughter. So he attacked Agamemnon’s people with plagues and such.
Zeus- Zeus was fairly neutral in the mortals argument. Yet in the end, he decided to help Thetis’ help Achilles become a more honorable man than Agamemnon. Even though, he knew he would get into trouble with his wife for not telling her[Hera] about this situation and dealing with it behind her back.
Your analysis was interesting but it had no examples from the text. What about the priest Chrysies's revenge on Agamemnon or Thetis request to Zeus? Next time take a little more time to write your analysis.
Commenting on Hanna Shih
I like how you wrote from the Gods point of view. It was a pretty humorus analysis. I would have enjoyed more explaination and detail.
I am going to have eto disagree with you. In the part where you put that Agamemnon took his prize away he actually got amd and gave said that if Agamemn oon gave up or didnt have a prize then Achilles had to give up his prize. Other than that yall did a good job.
@ Hanna Shih: Your perspective on was great, but you could've used complete and more detailed sentences. And, we like how you actually went back and retold the story, as if you were one of the gods, which a lot of people didn't do.
@eulices monterroso You did a good job with phrasing. I saw a few errors, though overall it was great.
commenting to caightlyn Mcglynn and maddie hoffman. I agree with in the fact that the greek gods were always mad at someone or something. Whether it was apollo sending plauges because f an insult to a priest or hera furious at Zeus for every little thing. half the time they are mad at each other. Laura Johnson
Comment to Mitch: You were supposed to write 2 paragraphs and that was only one. Also, some grammatical errors and awkward wording.
Comment to Hanna Shih: "annoying mortals who can't do anything right and always ask for our help even when they don't do what we asks." That is a sentence fragment and "what we asks" is not good grammar. Also, I would have liked examples from the text backing this up.
To Donna, I think what you have is good, but there is room for improvement. You could add more details and even examples.
To Matt, The examples you provided were accurate. It was good that you included them. So great. But I think you could've provided the why to their mechanics (the gods'). -Maria Gonzalez
commenting to megan crawford I liked how you were very specific about the fight between Zeus and Hera. Not many people included the part about Hephaistos. It is also interesting that you think zeus purposfully defied hera. Laura Johnson
COMMENTING ON HANNAH SHIH: Your answers seemed pretty well at fist but they lacked a lot of supporting detail. It would have been helpfu to many if you would have described the situations in Book 1 a ittle bit better. However I give you credit for the fact that you actually put your answers in the gods' perspective, unlike some people. Good voice in showing how the gods possibly thought.
COMMENTING ON EMMA FITZGERALD: I really enjoyed reading your response because they were brief and answered the question. For example after telling one part of the story, you would explain how that god felt about the situation. I agree that Apollo probably thought that the whole situation over fighting over the prize was stupid,and how how most gods believe that human disagreements are petty. I'm also in agreement with the fact that Thetis felt sorry for her son,and that's why she helped him. Overall nice job!
comment to tatiana I really liked your analysis. You wrote from the gods perspective but you also summarized the book. I also like how you put your opinion in at the end and that you wrote two paragraphs. Kelly Drelles
comment to kara I liked how whenever you made a point you backed it up with information from the book. Im also glad that you made your answer two paragraphs. i think you might have missed some important details from the book, but overall, i really liked your analysis kelly drelles
commenting on Garret. Your answer was really good, i hadn't thought about it like that before i read yours. it does seem a little unfair that he killed all those people from 1 request. Jake Green
commenting on joel v.d You did a good job on the first part of the book, but you could have elaborated a little more on the rest of the chapter Jake Green
commenting on Jharid: How is making it rain arrows and killing people petty?
commenting on Rueben Musonda: I thought you ranswers seemed like you really read the texta nd understood it. I do have one question though. Didn't Hera help someone in the beginning of the book? It seems like she doesn't want Zues to help the opposition, don't you think? (thats actually 2 questions, but they go together)
commenting on Eulices Monterroso: I thought your answer was good, but it did kinda seem like you were just re-phrasing the book. I didn't really realize that at the end Zues told Hera to just keep her mouth shut. I thought that was pretty cool that you 'discovered' that in the reading. So, good job!
You could've elaborated more on your answer. You left out a lot of inmportant details in your answer. I didn't really understand what you're saying, either. -Matt Hinkel
Overall, very nice job. Your answer was very detailed. I would have liked it to be more from the god's perspective though. You just stated what happened and didn't state what the gods thought about it or anything like that.
Your answer was short and to the point! You included all of the important details, although I think you should have included some more of how the gods felt about certain things, like how Agamemnon refused to let Chrysies' daughter go.
to steven: i don't know why you have sstsgbuichyysies as your fisrt word i wonder what it means lol but other than that i feel your answer was informative and overal good
i absolutly LOVE your answer to this question because it tottally says everything that is going thru everyone's mind as you read this story you definatly put personality into it and it tottally came thru i love the part when you were using words like that was stupid and blah it tottally gives me the reader a voice to think of in my head good job:D BY:EMILY BENNETT
Wow, I didn't even think of it like that. That Apollo was being biast, I completely missed that part. Good points.
I think from a god's perspective, Chrysies getting what he prayed for was kind of fair and not fair at the same time. Apollo was angry because chrysies made good offerings to him in the past. I don't think the gods cared that they were killing a bunch of people just for one man's offerings and his daughter. It seems biased. The goddess Athena seems like a pacifistic angel because she says she was sent from heaven and loving. Achilles obeyed Athena when she told him to put away his sword.
You're right, it seems like all the gods want is for their self, or which ever side they have connections with or against.
It seems like the gods just want to get their own type of happiness by acting through Achilles and anyone they can find. They always are in need of something, a sacrifice, an offering, etc, and they lead those in need of prayer or help from the gods' on, so they need more and more from the gods'. Then, the people feel the need to sacrifice more and more to the gods'.
I KIND OF DIDN'T GET WHAT YOU WERE EXPLAINING YOU JUST TOLD ACTIONS OF WHAT THEY DID. MAYBE BY USING COMPLETE SENTENCES WOULD MAKE IT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE. THE LIST WAS NOT ABOUT APOLLO'S POINT OF VIEW.
Megan, I liked how you really got into detail with your answers. I could tell you knew what you were talking about. You really got into the topic.
Emily and May, There's two of you, I think you could have gone more in depth. You answered the question but not up to what I think you could do. Try to make it more complete next time.
(book 1 analysis) Apollo got mad because Agamemnon turn down chrysies request to have his daughter back. so Apollo got mad and so Apollo discided to shoot his arrows at the mules and dogs then he shot at the men, this happened for nine days.
commenting on Laura Johnson good details, liked the wording, like how Apollo was "furious" on Hanna Shih I like how you said the Gods might think the humans are annoying, but I could argue that the gods liked helping the humans. zac abid
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Emily Bennett and May Hogan
Book 1 analysis: Gods :)
Apollo got mad because Agamemnon denied Chrysies's request to take his daughter back. Then chrysies prayed to Apollo. So apollo took out his rage on the Achaeans. He shot arrows at their dogs and mules, and then om their people.
Thetis was the mother of Achilles. When achilles's prize was taken away (briseis) She was called on to talk to Zeus to get her back. Thetis was successful with the request.
When Achilles threatened Agamemnon, Athena showed up to hold Achilles back from killing him. She tells him to drop the fight because in time something magnificent will happen to him.
Apollo came down and started masacuring the peoples of Agamemnon because he decline the request that chrysies his priest to release his daughter. Achellis got mad at Agememnon and was going to kill him but Athena came down and stettled Achellis. Because of this Agamemnon was vety mad and took achellis prize away. Achellis was mad so he prayed to his mom Thetis to help him. he asked her to talk to Zeus for him and request that he sabatages the Acheans.
Mitch And jonathon
annoying mortals who can't do anything right and always ask for our help even when they don't do what we asks.
Apollo- Agamemnon wouldn't return my priest's daughter, so I'll make his people suffer.
Thesis- Agamemnon took my son's prize, I'll go ask Zeus to help the Trojans like my son asked.
Hera/Athena- got to stop the hot head from killing the stupid king.
Hanna Shih
sstsgbiuChysies attempts to get his daughter back from the king but in return the kings yells at him telling him to leave. He prays to Apollo to tell him of the kings deeds and a result of it is the constant rain of arrows.
Zeus is aproached by Thetis to give her son honour. He though proclaims that there isn't much he can do yet he will do what he can. He tells thetis to leave before Hara sees her and Zues gets sculed by her. Vow she does see Thetis.
She exclaims that he always goes behind her back laying out laws and doing things without consulting her.
-Steven Collison
Apollo:Foolish achaeans, that King Agamemnon does nothing right. Not accepting the ransom from Chrysies was stupid. Then the King has to go and take Achilles' prize after returning his to Chrysies. Blah!
Gods:
mortals are the cause of all our troubles. achilles who is already an angry man gets even angrier over the taking of his prize, even though he will recieve an even better prize from us the gods.
-Maria GonzaleZ and Alison Robinson
We are writing from the perspective of Zeus. Zeus has ultimate power over everyone. He determined whether or not Achilles will get a shorter life. Apollo who is Zeus's son made Agamemnon and achilles feud.
We are also writing from the perspective of Thetis. Thetis is the messenger of Zeus. When Achilles [which is her son] asked her to go to zeus so he can grant him a shorter life. Thetis had to go to Zeus to ask if he would grant it no matter what. He ends up granting it and she is angry with Zeus because now his son will die early.
Gabriela Guzman
Alexis Vanotteren
From the gods perspective things that might seem petty to us could seem significant to the gods. For example,when Agamemnon was blaming Calchas for the god making it rain arrows for nine days and killing off the soilders.It eventually became a name calling battle. To mortals this might seem like a simple coral but to the gods it might be a big deal.
Jharid Boosamra
Whitney Burney
Gods are rather petty, very angry people. They get distraught over nearly everything. For instance, Apollo got angry when his priest said he didn't get his daughter back. Gods over-react a lot- Apollo Shootafar killed many people because his priest cried.
Although they get very angry about things that are going on in the human world, they also get extremely mad about things going on in the heavens. For instance, Hera is usually quite angry at Zeus because he goes around behind her back. When Thetis comes to him to beg for her son's honor, Hera finds out and accuses him of going behind her back again.
-Caitlyn McGlynn and Maddie Hoffman
Hannah Tripp and Andrea Stewart
The story of Book 1 through the gods' perspectives is that Archilles & Agamemnon went to a town and took two girls, one being a daughter of a preist. The preiest of Apollo, and brought ransom money for Agamemnon in hopes of his daughter's return. Agamemnon denied his request and took his money anyways, along with insulting the priest and threatening him to never come back. The preist prays to Apollo to let the people suffer. Apollo was enraged by Agamemnon's actions and answered teh priest's pryaer and shot arrows down upon the people for 9 days until Agamemnon called for a conference to speak with the gods. Calchas spoke and told Agamemnon what needed to be done, the girl needed to be returned. Achilles agreeed and so Agamemnon and Achilles went back anf forth in a feud whether or not Agamemnon should return his "prize" and whether it was fair or not. Achilles was so destressed by this that he was about to draw his sword when Athena stopped him and convinced him t just let it go. He did and he told Agamemnon what curse would fall upon him when he (Achilles) would die. Once back to their homes Agamemnon sent for Achille's girl (prize) to be taken from him. Achilles wept and prayed to his mother, Thetis to talk to Zeus. But Zeus couldn't help Thetis becuase if Hera found out he would be scolded and nagged at. Which did occur when Hera saw Thetis speaking with Zeus.
With the humans though they're story is just an argument amongst themselves. They just hope and pray to their gods or whatever connections they have to get what they want.
Laura Johnson
Apollo is furious that his priest has been disrespected. Therefore he goes and starts killing the people of Danaan. Eventually he stops, but many die before that comes to pass.
Also there is the time when Hera is angy with Zeus for agreeing to Thetis's request. She feels that he doesn't include her in his decissions. To me it seems that Hera thinks that Zeus is weak to do what every people ask of him.
A gods porpective for book1 would be Apollo is angry with Agamemnon he then makes himm pay with the burning of his animals and the death of his men. Apollo only reacted to the situation of Agememnon and Chrysies because Chrysies prayed to Apollo. So to react to save Chrysies daughter from Agememnon Apollo took some thing that truly mattered to Agememnon as an eye for an eye. To me this shows that gods really did not care that much about human affairs. It also shows that the gods only reacted if the humans prayed. Also showing that the gods were sort of fairs in some ways.
Atheana involved herself in some human affairsonly after Queen Hera prayed that she would help Achillies in his anger. So that he would not do something hasteful and destructive. She promised him that a chance for a sort of apology for the worlds the King Agememnon. Showing that the gods would persued people to not comitte certain actions.
In all it is my belief that the gods only interfered them self in human affairs if they were prayed to or it affected them in a certain way.
-Justice Mason
A gods prospective for book1 would be Apollo is angry with Agamemnon he then makes him pay with the burning of his animals and the death of his men. Apollo only reacted to the situation of Agamemnon and Chrysies because Chrysies prayed to Apollo. So to react to save Chrysies daughter from Agamemnon Apollo took some thing that truly mattered to Agamemnon as an eye for an eye. To me this shows that gods really did not care that much about human affairs. It also shows that the gods only reacted if the humans prayed. Also showing that the gods were sort of fairs in some ways.
Athena involved herself in some human affairs only after Queen Hera prayed that she would help Achilles in his anger. So that he would not do something hasteful and destructive. She promised him that a chance for a sort of apology for the worlds the King Agamemnon. Showing that the gods would peruse people to not commit certain actions.
In all it is my belief that the gods only interfered them self in human affairs if they were prayed to or it affected them in a certain way.
-Justice Mason
Sorry correct one
I think from a god's perspective, Chrysies getting what he prayed for was kind of fair and not fair at the same time. Apollo was angry because chrysies made good offerings to him in the past. I don't think the gods cared that they were killing a bunch of people just for one man's offerings and his daughter. It seems biased.
The goddess Athena seems like a pacifistic angel because she says she was sent from heaven and loving. Achilles obeyed Athena when she told him to put away his sword.
-Garrett
In book 1 from the gods perspective:
In the Apollo's perspective he got mad because Agamemnon refused Chysies's request or action to recieve his daughter back. So then Apollo got so angry that he let his anger out on the Achaeans.
He then shot arrows at the Achaeans dogs and mules and then on their men and the people. For nine days the gods arrows fell apon the camp. The mother of Achilles was Thetis. Just then, when Achilles's briseis prize was taken away from her and she had to talk to Zues to get her back. Thetis' scandelous request was accepted.
-Stephanie Lacey-
Well, Agamemnon had offended Apollo, who was the son of Leto and Zeus. So, he sent a plague onto the camp and everyone died. The priest asked the king to free his daughter and give her back to him, and to respect Apollo, but the King did not.
He told the priest to go away, or bad things would happen to him. Later in the book, Apollo caused a feud between the king and Achilles about Achilles' prize, Briseis. The king wanted her for himself, but Achilles would not give her to him and called him greedy.
After the feud had finally ended, King Agamemnon sent a few of his servants to Achilles' hut, and they took Briseis away from him against his will. He cried and wept, and prayed to his divine mother to help him and ask Zeus to make his fate a bit better. she accepted his prayer, and went to Zeus, begging for help. He reluctantly agreed.
-Matt Hinkel
kara faasen (book 1)
the gods are a very angery group. The gods could get set off from pretty much anything. From how people treat their favored ones or from you forgetting the great deed the granted you. Like in the Iliad when agamemnon was rud ethe priest and didnt give back his daughter, Apollo released his fury because he really favored the preist and his prayers.
In the Iliad the gods it seems like take sides and when ever someone messes with their person they get mad and kill or cause natural disaters. Sometimes the gods have a nicer side like when athena showed up to hold achilles back from killing agamemnon. Athena held him back because soomethign magnificent will happen to him.
The daughter of Chrysies' (a priest of Apollo) was stolen from him and given to King Agamemnon as a "prize". Chrysies asked for his daughter back in exchange for a ransom. Chrysies prayed to Apollo and Apollo fired his arrows down upon Agamemnon's army, dogs and mules.
Athena came down to prevent Achilles from killing Agamemnon and told Achilles that soon something great would happen that will make up for what Agamemnon said.
Hera was upset with Zeus for not discussing Thetis request with her before he made his decision. Zeus got mad at Hera for being so nosey and he threatens to beat her if she continues.
-Mallory Caillaud-Jones
!Donna Davidson!
I think that the gods have a harder time than the humans because they have to pick who they help and who they don’t and sometimes its because someone else is helping another group …but they have to make a choice between helping people and betraying another person or not help that person and act like it never happened.
In book one i would say the gods were in a "worship me" relationship with the mortals. The gods wanted recognition as well as respect, whether created by fear or something else. Towards the beginning we see that the priest had RECOGNIZED the god Apollo and he later WORSHIPED him. This priest had it all figured out, if he doesn't anger the gods, he is more likely to get what he wants. And that is what Apollo did, if i were Apollo i could sympathize with the priest, because he had done nothing to anger him, but the Acheans on the other hand had.
More in the middle of book one, we can see how the many gods looked down from Olympus. Zeus at the time would have wanted to wade out the war between the Trojans and Acheneans, but influence from the mortals changed the forecast. Hera and Zeus are sympathetic to the humans. From what i have read the winner of this war is going to be the one who is favored more by the gods, or the one who the gods can relate. The gods will not associate with the ones who are greedy, Hera did not call a meeting because she wanted to talk about the war, but only because the Achenean camps were plagued and she felt for them. To the gods the current situation is just a quarrel between humans that they know they will have to get involved in sooner or later. Whether they want to or not. (Zeus granting and listing to Theti's plead for her son Archilles)
yeah, chomba is Rueben Musonda up there
Apollo attacked the Achaeans for 9 days because Chrysies prayed to him. Chrysies prays to Apollo because his daughter, who was Agamemnon's 'prize' in battle, was not allowed to be free even after a large amount of money offered from Chrysies to Agamemnon.I think Apollo must of thought it was a stupid thing to fight over. Gods always seem to think that human fights are petty.
Thetis, Achilles mother, went to go pray to Zeus after Achilles wept to her about how Agamemnon took Briseis, his battle 'prize' away from him. Thetis, being his mother, probably pitied him for his loss.
Emma FitzGerald
Book 1 was about how Chryses got mad at Agamemnon because he wouldn't let his daughter go. Chryses prayed to Apollo and Then Apollo shot arrows down on his people. Achilles told King Agamemnon that he should give Chryes' Daughter to Apollo.
achilles Asked his mom(Thetis ) to ask her to ask Zeus to grant he eternal life.
Xx^Charisse^xX
Agamemnon Denied Apollo by not giving Chrysies back his daughter. So he came and shot arrows from his silver bow and killed lots of the Achaeans and their animls. Then all the kings held a meeting to decide what to do. Agamemnon and Achilles were going at it during the entire meeting. When Acilles was almpst about to attack Agamemnon Athena came own and held him back. Then Achilles prays to his mom Thetis to try and get Briseis back. She goes to Zeus and tries to persuade him to help. Hera doesn' t want Zeus to help Tetis , but he tells her off.
This whole thing started when Agamemnon stole Apollos priestest Chryseis. Chryse offerd the king gold to give her back but he wouldnt do it. Chryse prayed to Apollo. Then Apollo began shooting arrows at the Achaens, first there dogs and mules, then humans. He did this for 9 days straight.
Eventually Agmemnon gives the god his priestess back so the arrows stop. The king is mad that he had to give up his prize(Chryseis)so he takes Briseis, who was Achilles prize. Achilles asks Thetis to help him so she prays to Zeus for help.Zeus says that he will help. Hera is angry because he is always doing things without telling her.They have a big argument wich is eventuallty settled by Hepphaistos.
Jake Green
King Agamemnon took Chrysies daughter and when Chrysies brought treasure for ransom to get her back, Agamemnon was very rude to Chrysies and told him to go away and that the daughter would stay with him. So then Chrysies prays to Apollo that the Achaeans will pay for how King Agamemnon acted towards Chrysies. So Apollo shoots all of the mules and dogs and men and this goes on for nine days. On the tenth day Achilles put a stop to it.
Calchays says that the Achaeans should send the daughter back. Achilles agreed with what Calchays was saying. This started a long argument back and forth between Achilles and Agamemnon. At one point Achilles got so mad that he was about to hurt Agamemnon with his sword. Then Queen Hera sent down Athena from heaven. Athena stopped Achilles from injuring Agamemnon but they started fighting again.
Agamemnon took Briseis from Achilles and so he cried and called to his mother for help. His mother, Thetis, went to Zeus for help but Zeus didn’t want Hera to see her. But, in the end, Hera did see Thetis and she got very upset at Zeus for not consulting with her before he made a decision.
Kelly Drelles
Apollo got angry that Agamemnon denied the request to return his daughter back to chrysies. So Apollo came down and killed many lives. Agamemnon wants a prize to fight, so he goes and takes Achilles wife Briseis.
Achilles mother requested to zeus to give him the respect he deserves for everything agamemnon did to him, so zeus accepts behind Heras back and she gets upset with zues for never telling her his decisions.
Emily Guy.
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Book 1 Analysis-
In the beginning they were arguing over a ransom including Chrysie and I believe that Agamemnon decided not to give back the daughter and Apollo took his wrath out on the Achaens. Agamemnon had Briseis tooken away from Achilles after their little argument in the beginning of the chapter and Achilles decided to have his mother call upon Zeus to get his prize back.
Apollo pretty much came down and started smiting everyone because Agamemnon didint let Chrysies get her daughter back, so Chrysies pretty much prayed to apollo, then thats when apollo did his work and started shooting down his arrows.
Then the king took achillies prize, so he gets mad, so when he was about to kill him athena came down and stopped him.
David G
I believe that Apollo's anger was caused by the fact that Agamemnon not only turned down Chryses's ransom for the return of Chrysies, but he did so very disrespectfully. Chryses prayed to the god for revenge by having him shoot down the Achaen people in large numbers. The god came down from Olympus and fulfilled the priest's request.
After Thetis (Achilles's mom) goes to Zeus to ask him to be on Achilles's side, and he accepts, Hera is ticked off at him because apparently he does a lot of things behind her back. Zeus the proceeds to tell her to mind her own business, and if he put his hands on her she'd shut up. Hera is afraid and silences herself.
~De'Andreah Hollowell.
From the gods' Perspective:(Book 1)
Apollo was the first god mentioned in this book and it can be seen that he likes his priest, Chrysies, to teach King Agamemnon a lesson. Chrysies first went to King Agamemnon with a rich treasure to ransom his daughter, but he was harshly kicked out. Afterwards he seeked help form Apollo, and that's the foundation of this whole dilemna. After the court of the king realizes what's on, they try to find a solution.
Calchas, the diviner of dreams, is then summoned and tells why Apollo is mad and what should be done about the situation. Stuborn and selfish Agamemnon doesn't like the idea of giving back the priest's daughter without getting a prize back.
This leads to Archilles, who is furious with the King because he demands a prize, and won't cooperate with him on getting a bigger one once they defeat Troy. Agamemnon is so determined, he says he'll take something from Archilles, Aides, or Oddyseus. Afterwards the goddess,Hera, realizes the anger in Archilles and sends Athena to calm him.
Athena then tells him not to fight because thee's somthing bright in his future. Archilles calms down, but future disputes soon occur. After one of them, Agamemnon takes Archilles' prize, Briseis, and desperate Archilles gets help form his mom, Thetis. She asks Zeus to help her son regain honor, but this favor causes trouble with Hera.
Overall god's point of view: These humans don't know how to handle problems, so we have to help, sometimes putting our social status in danger.
~Fabiola Enriquez
The gods actually have as many issues if not more than the mortals. They are easily angered and violet as us. When Zues tried to help Achilles, his wife got mad becuase she didn't want him helping anyone unless she knows. In fact, she doesn't want him helping anyone at all. The only thing that is wierd about that is how Zeus is supposively the god of all gods and his wife is kind of taking charge of his responsibilities. I think she bosses him around too much. Also, she contridicks herself when she doesn't want Zues to help anyone or involve himself in mortal's issues, when she sent a messenger to Achilles to make sure he didn't kill Ammegmon (im not sure how you pronounce or spell his name).
Its also kind of wierd how sometimes the gods and the mortals seem to work together really well, but other times they are almost afraid of each other. Apollo's preist was very brave asking Apollo to help him, but Achilles who was part-god, had to get his mother to ask Zues to help him becuase his wife was taken away. Another thing I really don't get about that is why Achilles didn't try to fight back when they came and took Briseis, if he is invincible. It is also kind of funny how the gods seem to quarrell as men do, but they have power over everything that happens. Personally, if I lived in ancient Greece, I would be somewhat frightened if the divine was just as, if not more corrupted than mankind. What makes them so great then? Thier special abilities? Doesn't that make it seem more like a dicatorship? I don't know about you, but I think that the gods weren't really all that special.
-Savannah Smith
Megan Crawford
Book 1 analysis: Gods
Apollo was angry with Agamemnon for denying Chrises's request for his daughter, Chrysies back. Chryses prays to Apollo and Apollo hears him. Apollo gets angry and decides to send a plague over the Achaeans. After a heated argument between Achilles and Agamemnon it is decided that Chrysies will be returned and 100 sacred bulls will be sacrificed to Apollo to appease him.
Athena doesn't really play that big of a part yet. She is basically the peacemaker between Agamemnon and Achilles. She tells Achilles not to fight Agamemnon because later he will be rewarded 3 times over for Agamemnon's fury, and Agamemnon will pay for it.
Thetis, Achilles's mother, hears Achilles's cries when he is upset about Agamemnon taking his prize, Briseis. She goes to Achilles and Achilles asks her to go to Zeus and ask him for help for the Trojans against the Achaeans, reminding Zeus of when Thetis helped him. Zeus agrees reluctantly.
Zeus is very important in this story. He is the most powerful god of Mount Olympus. At one time, Thetis helped him, so Zeus helped Thetis by granting her request to help the Trojans agaist the Achaeans. He knows that Hera will be mad, but he does it anyway. Then. he fights with Hera.
Hera is Zeus's wife. She is very suspicious of him. He made the decision to help Thetis, and therefore Achilles, without consulting her. She is very upset that he never talks to her and he is upset that she is so suspicious of him. So he threatens her saying that she should just go along with it because he is the most powerful god, and if she doesn't something bad could happen to her. She is scared, but her son, Haphaestus (spelling?) tells her to make good with Zeus, for all the reasons he threatens her with. She agrees and at the end of Book 1, Zeus and Hera are sleeping in the same bed. This leads me to think that they resolved their issues.
Apollo is angry, because king agamemnon was rude and harsh to chrysies when he asked for his daughter back and offered to pay a ransom.Then chrysies became angry and prayed to apollo who then became angry at how the king treated his priest. so Apollo shot arrows at the achaeans' dogs and mules, then started shooting at them.
the king threatened to take away achilles' prize if his was taken. achilles was outraged and tempted to draw his sword, but athena showed up and told him to calm down and spare the king, because great things would soon happen to achilles.
The mother of achilles(thetis) tried to help his son whose prize was robbed from him by the king. so she asked zeus to not let the achaeans win the war until his prize was returned and he was honored.
Hera who saw thetis begging zeus to help her son was outraged at zeus. when she confronted him however he told her that she should just keep her mouth shut.
Eulices Monterroso
From the gods perspective things that might seem petty to us could seem significant to the gods. For example,when Agamemnon was blaming Calchas for the god making it rain arrows for nine days and killing off the soilders.It eventually became a name calling battle. To mortals this might seem like a simple coral but to the gods it might be a big deal.
Like you'd think that theywere inferior to these types of issues but they actually have more problems then the mortals. To the gods Agmenon is just a really mean powerful ruler but he also seems that way to mortals. He took the ransom from the preiest and still wouldn't return his prize ( the girl). And then when the priest won the prize he decided that he too deserved and wanted a prize so he took the prize that the priest had just won. I also think that it's interesting how they show how powerful prayer is and how important it is to the gods. For example they said that after the horrible treatment from Agmemnon, Chrysies prayed to Apollo. Then for nine days it rained arrows on the animals then the men in the army, and many people were dying.
That was Whitney Burney By the way. I was partners with Jharid but we didn't finish in class
It seems like the Gods are just like real people, they have real lives just like humans. They marry, they socialize, they have children, and have human problems. Zeus has a clutchy, untrustful wife, and Posiedon had a daughter. There seems to be a city of Gods. These Gods seem to live at a place called Olympos.
The one thing that really sets them apart from humans is their power. If a human has a request, they pray to the Gods to grant it. Like when Achilles wanted the Achaeans to lose to the Trojans, he asked Thetis to ask the God Zeus to grant him his request, and he did. When Agamemnon refuses to let Chrysies' daughter go, he prays to Apollo to attack the Achaeans. Apollo did, and the Acheans set Chrysies' daughter free.
Zac Abid
The gods are all like superheroes. They are human, so they experience anger and hold grudges, but, being immortal, they can live long enough to see consequences.
This first book of the iliad alone had such a complicated web of revenge deceit and favoritism, you can't say the gods weren't human, at least in part. Joel V.D. 3rd
I tried to post before and lost 2 paragraphs, so if my first posting shows up, take that on for my grade
book one starts out with a priest of Apollo visiting the King of Greece, Agemennon, and Achilles, his greatest warrior, with a ransom, trying to buy back his daughter. When he asks the king to give him back his daughter, the king refuses, and the Priest, Chrysies, prays to Apollo to help him . Apollo hears his Priest's prayer, and starts shooting arrows at the the Acheans under Agemennon. Another Priest tells Agemennon how to stop Appllo, but it requires the king to give up the Priest of Apollo's daughter, the king agrees, on the condition that he gets Achilles woman he earned from the war, Achilles, outraged, decides he wants to kill the king, but Zeus' daughter, Athena, stops him. The King sends Achilles to go make a sacrifice to Apollo, and Achilles leaves, but vows that the King will regret it. After Making the sacrifice, Achilles asks his mother, who has Zeus' favor, to ask Zeus to help the Trojans to defeat King Agemennon so that the greedy king can be brought to shame. Zeus agrees to help the Trojans, but doesn't tell his wife Hera. Hera gets angry, but is calmed by Hephastus, the Craftsman God
It seems like the gods just want to get their own type of happiness by acting through Achilles and anyone they can find. They always are in need of something, a sacrifice, an offering, etc, and they lead those in need of prayer or help from the gods' on, so they need more and more from the gods'. Then, the people feel the need to sacrifice more and more to the gods'.
Yasmen Wells
Gods Perspective on anger
In book 1 there was a lot of anger and feud going around between mere mortals and the gods. You can say there was a lot of drama that was occurring in the book but to the gods and to the mortals it’s not drama at all. In the gods perspective anger is just a mere punishment among mortals for their wrong doings. Anger in the book is as it is said to be believed by many meaning that even though the mortals were punished by the gods the mortals still angered them to cause those punishments. So pretty much in a god’s perspective to be angered you have to really offend them and because of your offense you will be punished.
To go along to what I’m saying here is look at the fact of Apollo who pretty much destroyed King Agamemnon’s army. Do to the fact that King Agamemnon refused an old man’s ransom and refused rudely he and his army was punished by Apollo who was angered at this fact. Apollo had laid upon the army with arrows which had almost wiped out the entire army. So what you can get out of this is in a god’s perspective to be angered is just really to punish for ones wrong doings.
Mark Marciniak
From the god's point of veiw. Apollo is angry because King agamemnon seems as if he doesn't care about everyone only the ones who have his back. Like when Achilles was threatining to leave King agamemnon didn't care as long as he had Zues on his side. Agamemnon also didn't accept Cyrisies' daughter and wanted nothing to do with either one. Apollo tries to give Chryses his daughter back which is Cyrises' for a ransom but Agamemnon refuses the offer and keeps her. Apollo sent a plague upon the Greek camp causing many deaths opf many soldiers. The gods seem to be more involved with the human folly then the human characters themselves.Zues promises to help the Trojans.
Achilles and Agamemnon clash in an arguement about the well being of the Archean forces. Agamemnon know feels beiong in his position he should get the highest prize (Briseis). Achilles would rather defend his claim to Briseis. Achilles always wants to fight and tried tno put the Archean army together but the goddess Athena prevents him from getting in the way with Apollo's plan. Apollo was kind of responsible for all that conflict.
~Tatiana Padron~
"An angry man there is my story." Apollo was mad at king Agamemnon because he was being mean to this older man hows daughter was taken away from in return of tresures and didn't have his daughter so was up set and wanted revenge. That is why Apollo shoot his arrows of fire as revenge for him. The old man finally got his daughter back eventually.
Achillies also had a problem with the king, because the king basically stole his prize that he rightfully earned and recieved from the rest of the army. Because his prize was stolen he decided to also ask his mother to ask zues to help the trojans loose and get his revenge. But when the mother went to zues he said he would do his best but that his wife would not be happy so he promised he would do something to benifit him though.
- Abigail Miramon
Goog\d answer May and Emily. You included most of the circumstances.
-Mari G
hannah shih
i liked how you answered from the gods perspective.
- alison Robinson
COMMENTING TO MITCH AND JONATHON:
Well, before I even started reading I noticed that it wasn't two paragraphs. You did the analysis and it seemed like you read the text, but you didn't really go in depth. You kinde of left a lot to be desired.
COMMENTING TO HANNAH SHIH:
Again, before I even started reading, I saw that it was no where near paragraphs...and it wasn't organized into paragraphs either. It was more of a list. Then, you did something creative and actually wrote as one of the gods. It was humorous and I like your use of language.
COMMENTING TO KARA FAASEN:
You actually followed directions and wrote two paragraphs. I liked how you wrote in a more general way including all the gods mentioned into two groups: angry and helpful. I should have done that, mine was way too long.
--MEGAN CRAWFORD
The Gods are doing favors for everyone! Zeus is helping Achillies, and Hera is angry! The king god can't control his wife!
Then there's Appollo, He's killing Achilles soldiers, and the whole thing is a mess. Isn't that ridiculous? Zeus is chief god and he's fighting his wife and the sun god.
Zarah
Mallory, there were a few significant holes in you're analysis, such as, you didn't say why the priest prayed to Apollo, and you missed the part where Achilles prays to his mother
Hannah shih, I didn't understand your analysis, did you switch viewpoints? It didn't seem to be in any chronological order
Nate Mulder
dexter20Comment to Eulices Monterroso,
the way you incorperated almost all the gods in that order, i was sure when reading your blog that you knew wat you were talking about. Although you missed a couple of details like how the prespective of the gods was well interwined with the humans action. you answers paragraphs are very well presented
Comment to Megan Crawford
i like how you explain the way you feel the gods felt. you went well into the problems that the gods had to interfere. your writings are well done, and it was hard not to see that you didn't know what you were talking about
RUEBEN MUSONDA
commenting on reuben musonda:
your answer was really long. although you did get the point across. It was very thorough and long.
commenting on Emily bennet/ May Hogan:
Your answer was pretty short. You didn't really state all of the gods point of view. You didn't mention what Hera said to Zeus, but you did get some things across.
Eulices Monterroso
Megan-
I like how you use complete answers. You explain who the characters are. I didn't like how you said that Apollo sent down a plague because it wasnt really a plague, just an angry god shooting arrows.
This is to Garrett: I have to agree with you. I think that the gods really only looked at it from their perspective and not the other gods point of view. They didnt care if they killed alot of people just as long as they completed the task they were asked to complpete.
Stephanie Lacey
This is towards Abby
Ok now it was cool how youo sumerised the whole book but that wasnt what you exactly had to do. sumeerising the whole book was good and all especially since the whole book was about angered so good job but next time jsut remember to clearly read the directions and youll be good, you wont have to do extra work.
Mark
to miss kelly
i like your answers thety are well said. the story line of how you wrote is what caught my eye. one thing of advice that i would say is to include more of the gods perception of whats going on and how much they affect the situation.
BIANCA DANIELS
Commehting on Nate:
I really liked your answer. The way you tied in each god's anger with the others was well done. It kept me interested.
Commenting on Maria and Alison:
I liked how you both expressed not only Apollo's anger, but his feelings in general. I thought that the gods' anger was very similar, I think that they have the same 'foolish humans' thing going on. Really nice job.
~De'Andreah H.
Commenting on Emily B and May H:
I have to agree with most of it but you should have showed more on The Achilles and Agamemnon arguement. As well as the ransom order for the priest daughter. But it was very understandable and you gave good details. mentioning Apollo and Athena actions made it make sense.
~Tatiana Padron~
To Maria Gonzales I think what she meant by from a gods perspective is that what you think the gods felt at the time of book one not. The though of you being a god is a good motive and could come out as a good answer. You show great details but I think that if you had used the correct format then you would have had outstanding prospective.
To Andrea and Hannah I love how you used accurate details with in your answers. I also like how you used raw emotion when explaining how the gods felt and how the gods reacted to the human’s affairs. What I didn’t like was the fact that towards middle of your explanation your went into some of the mortal affairs such as Achilles and Agamemnon.
-Justice Mason
○ ○ ● APRiL CASSiTA ● ○ ○
Chrysies went to see the Acheans to bring a rich treasure to ransom Chrysies daughter. Agamemnon treated him bad because he was not pleased by him. Because of Agamemnon's reaction to Chrysies Apollo shoots arrows at the Acheans and their dogs. He sent a plague. Calchas stood up to tell everyone what they had to do after Achilles promised that he would have his back afterwards because he fceared Agamemnon would have a grudge. Calchas said that they had to give back the girl. When Calchas speaks Agamemnon gets really angry and took it out on Achilles he said he wouldn't give up his prize unless Achilles gave him his. Achilles offered him 3 or 4 fold for the girl. Agamemnon said for Achilles to give him Briseis (Achilles prize) or he would take her himself. Achilles hesistated to pull out his sword but right when he did the Goddess Athena stopped him. She was sent by the Goddess Hera who was once loving and kind. Achilles fortold that Agamemnon's pride would be his death. Agamemnon took Briseis because he lost his prize. Achilles asked Thetis to make him immortal. Zeus said that he would try and do what she requested but for her to go because he didn't want Hera finding out. When Hera found out she was mad because he is always fulfilling requests without her included. But she eventually agrees with it since Zeus kind of threatened her.
commenting justice
you paragraphs about the gods are very detailed. I like the way you worded it also and the comments on how apollo helped. I think it was real cool how you also talked about how athena was involved.
commenting emily guy
I like that you were detailed but it doesnt exactly say if brises was achilles wife or not. Not to be judgmental but achilles mother didnt ask zeus for respect for achilles, she asked that zeus support the trojan cause. It seems you have a general understanding but your answers kind of got a bit mixed up.
kara faasen
to mitch
the way you incorporate the gods is good. you have alot of info on the gods did. to make you analysis better you should have written more to get the best expalnation of how they affected the common people.
BIANCA DANIELS
this regards mark.
you totally had the correct stuff. I liked how you also gave an example from the book that actually shows that you read it. One question though, i think you should of said what the gods would of done if they saw some one else angered and what they would of done. that would of put both perspectives on the table and made it alittle bit better. but over all it was very good.
Abigail M
Commenting on Reuben
Holy cow your answer was long! Sometimes when you get a really long answer like that it gets boring. Yours had the correct info and it didn't get boring. Good job.
Commenting on Mitch
You had good info. Although your spelling was questionable. it's sabotages not sabatages. It was really good info though, and it was easy to read.
Commenting on Emily and May
You left out a few parts in your explanation, but you explained what you have well. It was easy to understand. You included most of the important parts, anyway. The parts you left out were not as relevant to the story. Nice job overall.
-Matt Hinkel
Agamemnon stole a girl from an old guy who was a priest of apollo. The old man tries to pay ransom but agamemnon does not release her. The man prays to Apollo and apollo sends a plague to agamemnons men.
After this event achillies called all the men to an assembly and asked the men what they did wrong. Someone came forward and it was decided that the priests daughter must be returned so agamemnon gives her up and achillies is forced to give his girl up. Achillies tells his mom and she tells zeus and he doesnt really do anything.
James veenstra Donny Olin breanna thomsen
Gods’ point of view
Apollo
Apollo more than likely was very mad at the mortals. He was mad because King Agamemnon took his priests daughter, and wouldn’t give her back, even after the priest brought him a ransom for his daughter. So he attacked Agamemnon’s people with plagues and such.
Zeus-
Zeus was fairly neutral in the mortals argument. Yet in the end, he decided to help Thetis’ help Achilles become a more honorable man than Agamemnon. Even though, he knew he would get into trouble with his wife for not telling her[Hera] about this situation and dealing with it behind her back.
~Stephen King
~Monika Steffens
~Devan Jones
Commenting on Donna Davidson
Your analysis was interesting but it had no examples from the text. What about the priest Chrysies's revenge on Agamemnon or Thetis request to Zeus? Next time take a little more time to write your analysis.
Commenting on Hanna Shih
I like how you wrote from the Gods point of view. It was a pretty humorus analysis. I would have enjoyed more explaination and detail.
-Mallory Caillaud-Jones
This is a commment to Mitch and Jonathan:
I am going to have eto disagree with you. In the part where you put that Agamemnon took his prize away he actually got amd and gave said that if Agamemn oon gave up or didnt have a prize then Achilles had to give up his prize.
Other than that yall did a good job.
Stephanie Lacey
Charisse Johnson
commenting on april-
what a good analysis you obviously studied your questions I can tell that you read the book.
@ Hanna Shih:
Your perspective on was great, but you could've used complete and more detailed sentences. And, we like how you actually went back and retold the story, as if you were one of the gods, which a lot of people didn't do.
@eulices monterroso
You did a good job with phrasing. I saw a few errors, though overall it was great.
Zarah Austin, Yasmen Wells
commenting to caightlyn Mcglynn and maddie hoffman. I agree with in the fact that the greek gods were always mad at someone or something. Whether it was apollo sending plauges because f an insult to a priest or hera furious at Zeus for every little thing. half the time they are mad at each other. Laura Johnson
Comment to Mitch:
You were supposed to write 2 paragraphs and that was only one. Also, some grammatical errors and awkward wording.
Comment to Hanna Shih:
"annoying mortals who can't do anything right and always ask for our help even when they don't do what we asks."
That is a sentence fragment and "what we asks" is not good grammar.
Also, I would have liked examples from the text backing this up.
-Hannah Tripp
To Caitlyn McGlynn and Maddie Hoffman
i agree with your response, the gods act as regular humans.
-Alison Robinson
To Donna,
I think what you have is good, but there is room for improvement. You could add more details and even examples.
To Matt,
The examples you provided were accurate. It was good that you included them. So great. But I think you could've provided the why to their mechanics (the gods').
-Maria Gonzalez
commenting to megan crawford I liked how you were very specific about the fight between Zeus and Hera. Not many people included the part about Hephaistos. It is also interesting that you think zeus purposfully defied hera. Laura Johnson
COMMENTING ON HANNAH SHIH:
Your answers seemed pretty well at fist but they lacked a lot of supporting detail. It would have been helpfu to many if you would have described the situations in Book 1 a ittle bit better. However I give you credit for the fact that you actually put your answers in the gods' perspective, unlike some people. Good voice in showing how the gods possibly thought.
~Fabiola Enriquez
COMMENTING ON EMMA FITZGERALD:
I really enjoyed reading your response because they were brief and answered the question. For example after telling one part of the story, you would explain how that god felt about the situation. I agree that Apollo probably thought that the whole situation over fighting over the prize was stupid,and how how most gods believe that human disagreements are petty. I'm also in agreement with the fact that Thetis felt sorry for her son,and that's why she helped him. Overall nice job!
~Fabiola Enriquez
comment to tatiana
I really liked your analysis. You wrote from the gods perspective but you also summarized the book. I also like how you put your opinion in at the end and that you wrote two paragraphs.
Kelly Drelles
comment to kara
I liked how whenever you made a point you backed it up with information from the book. Im also glad that you made your answer two paragraphs. i think you might have missed some important details from the book, but overall, i really liked your analysis
kelly drelles
commenting on Garret.
Your answer was really good, i hadn't thought about it like that before i read yours. it does seem a little unfair that he killed all those people from 1 request.
Jake Green
commenting on joel v.d
You did a good job on the first part of the book, but you could have elaborated a little more on the rest of the chapter
Jake Green
commenting on Jharid:
How is making it rain arrows and killing people petty?
commenting on Rueben Musonda:
I thought you ranswers seemed like you really read the texta nd understood it. I do have one question though. Didn't Hera help someone in the beginning of the book? It seems like she doesn't want Zues to help the opposition, don't you think? (thats actually 2 questions, but they go together)
commenting on Eulices Monterroso:
I thought your answer was good, but it did kinda seem like you were just re-phrasing the book. I didn't really realize that at the end Zues told Hera to just keep her mouth shut. I thought that was pretty cool that you 'discovered' that in the reading. So, good job!
-Savannah Smith
To Jharid and Whitney
You could've elaborated more on your answer. You left out a lot of inmportant details in your answer. I didn't really understand what you're saying, either.
-Matt Hinkel
Zarah, your answer had humor and made me laugh. "Zeus can't control his wife!" lol
Commenting on Fabiola Enriquez:
Overall, very nice job. Your answer was very detailed. I would have liked it to be more from the god's perspective though. You just stated what happened and didn't state what the gods thought about it or anything like that.
Emma FitzGerald
Commenting on Mallory Caillaud-Jones:
Your answer was short and to the point! You included all of the important details, although I think you should have included some more of how the gods felt about certain things, like how Agamemnon refused to let Chrysies' daughter go.
Emma FitzGerald
to steven:
i don't know why you have sstsgbuichyysies as your fisrt word i wonder what it means lol but other than that i feel your answer was informative and overal good
BY:EMILY BENNETT
to:maria and allison
i absolutly LOVE your answer to this question because it tottally says everything that is going thru everyone's mind as you read this story you definatly put personality into it and it tottally came thru i love the part when you were using words like that was stupid and blah it tottally gives me the reader a voice to think of in my head good job:D
BY:EMILY BENNETT
To Garrett:
Wow, I didn't even think of it like that. That Apollo was being biast, I completely missed that part.
Good points.
I think from a god's perspective, Chrysies getting what he prayed for was kind of fair and not fair at the same time. Apollo was angry because chrysies made good offerings to him in the past. I don't think the gods cared that they were killing a bunch of people just for one man's offerings and his daughter. It seems biased.
The goddess Athena seems like a pacifistic angel because she says she was sent from heaven and loving. Achilles obeyed Athena when she told him to put away his sword.
--Andrea
To Yasmen Wells:
You're right, it seems like all the gods want is for their self, or which ever side they have connections with or against.
It seems like the gods just want to get their own type of happiness by acting through Achilles and anyone they can find. They always are in need of something, a sacrifice, an offering, etc, and they lead those in need of prayer or help from the gods' on, so they need more and more from the gods'. Then, the people feel the need to sacrifice more and more to the gods'.
--Andrea Stewart
COMMENTING ON HANNAH SHIH:
I KIND OF DIDN'T GET WHAT YOU WERE EXPLAINING YOU JUST TOLD ACTIONS OF WHAT THEY DID. MAYBE BY USING COMPLETE SENTENCES WOULD MAKE IT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE. THE LIST WAS NOT ABOUT APOLLO'S POINT OF VIEW.
FROM: TATIANA
commenting emily bennet and may hogan:
i agree wiht your answer. It was well written. Good job!
commenting on Fabiola:
i agree with your answer to. Your respnse was well written. It looks like you took a lot of your time to write it. =]
lexie vanotteren 3rd
commenting emily bennet and may hogan:
i agree wiht your answer. It was well written. Good job!
commenting on Fabiola:
i agree with your answer to. Your respnse was well written. It looks like you took a lot of your time to write it. =]
lexie vanotteren 3rd
and Gaby Guzman
May/Emily,
I think they wanted us to describe how the divine experienced/dealt with/used anger, not a description of the revenge web
Joel V.D.
Mitch, Jonathan,
Same Thing.
Joel V.D.
Megan, I liked how you really got into detail with your answers. I could tell you knew what you were talking about. You really got into the topic.
Emily and May, There's two of you, I think you could have gone more in depth. You answered the question but not up to what I think you could do. Try to make it more complete next time.
Emily Guy
commenting on Emily and May
it was good but it would be better if you put it in order
commenting on Hanna Shih
you could have actually put it in a sentence to form a paragraph
To Andrea and Hannah
You guys are on top of your game with these lengthy answers
To Fabiola E
I completely agree with your answer
(book 1 analysis)
Apollo got mad because Agamemnon turn down chrysies request to have his daughter back. so Apollo got mad and so Apollo discided to shoot his arrows at the mules and dogs then he shot at the men, this happened for nine days.
commenting on Laura Johnson
good details, liked the wording, like how Apollo was "furious"
on Hanna Shih
I like how you said the Gods might think the humans are annoying, but I could argue that the gods liked helping the humans.
zac abid
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